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Pucky

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And typically, 2nd year guys + want more each yr.......Vets usually make most on team....

Help me if Im wrong P.O.

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Former minor league player Jamie McKinven has this info to offer in his 2015 "The Hierarchy of Pro Hockey" article in his "When In Doubt, Glass & Out" blog ...

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... Dropping down even further to the Southern Professional Hockey League (SPHL), players earn between $4,200 and $14,000 per year, with most players receiving weekly paycheques in the $200 to $250 range.

You might look at the salaries in the ECHL and SPHL and ask yourself why would these people put their bodies on the line for such a small amount of money and no guarantees? The simple answer is that if you are being paid to play, then technically the dream is still alive and well. ...

 

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Not a lot of money but where can you get a job where you spend a hour and a half a day in practice and still

live your dream and get an apartment. And in the case of most of the SPHL you can spend the afternoons

playing golf in shorts. A lot of these guys are only here for a couple of years before getting real jobs, but

most will tell you they love it.

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The $5600 per week total of course does not include under-the-table cash (mostly to the expensive veterans) (and we can speculate which teams give the most unreported cash) or "jobs" provided by boosters/corporate sponsors/owners along with ownership- paid furnished apartments/cable/utilities and booster club furniture/food/staples. The $5600 has to be divvied up amongst all 18 and the vets will get the lion's share of the pot, but I believe the minimum salary is $200 per week.

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5 hours ago, PlannedObsolescence said:

The $5600 per week total of course does not include under-the-table cash (mostly to the expensive veterans) (and we can speculate which teams give the most unreported cash) or "jobs" provided by boosters/corporate sponsors/owners along with ownership- paid furnished apartments/cable/utilities and booster club furniture/food/staples. The $5600 has to be divvied up amongst all 18 and the vets will get the lion's share of the pot, but I believe the minimum salary is $200 per week.

Thanks for the info.  As Snakezzz says a great deal have to be playing for the love of the game.  This league technically isn't connected to a feeder system correct?  Which brings up another interesting question...Where does the rest of the money go?  (For example Macon had 1400 in attendance at Saturday nights game.  At a min of $10 a ticket - we pay quite a bit more for our seats, that's $14,000 just for just that night).  I guess the rest goes to things like franchise fees?  Facility rent? Overhead cost? 

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7 minutes ago, Pucky said:

... This league technically isn't connected to a feeder system correct? ...

Correct.  Even non-technically, it's not.

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8 minutes ago, Pucky said:

...Where does the rest of the money go?  (For example Macon had 1400 in attendance at Saturday nights game.  At a min of $10 a ticket - we pay quite a bit more for our seats, that's $14,000 just for just that night).  I guess the rest goes to things like franchise fees?  Facility rent? Overhead cost? 

Very few hockey teams (and maybe none of them) receive 100% of ticket revenues.  Varying portions go to the arena management and/or to municipal facility owners.  The team owners must pay franchise fees and facility rent (usually per game date) as you mentioned.  They also must pay for player/staff insurance, and player equipment costs (as dictated by the collective bargaining agreement or similar League-wide player agreement), and player (and in a few cases family) housing costs, and staff salaries, and transportation costs, and advertising costs, and legal fees, and accounting fees, and business licenses/fees (varying by location), and taxes, and so on, and so on, and so on.  That $14,000 you calculated per game gets consumed quickly - much like a family budget.

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3 minutes ago, JMC-STL said:

Very few hockey teams (and maybe none of them) receive 100% of ticket revenues.  Varying portions go to the arena management and/or to municipal facility owners.  The team owners must pay franchise fees and facility rent (usually per game date) as you mentioned.  They also must pay for player/staff insurance, and player equipment costs (as dictated by the collective bargaining agreement or similar League-wide player agreement), and player (and in a few cases family) housing costs, and staff salaries, and transportation costs, and advertising costs, and legal fees, and accounting fees, and business licenses/fees (varying by location), and taxes, and so on, and so on, and so on.  That $14,000 you calculated per game gets consumed quickly - much like a family budget.

I guarantee Macon lost money for a Saturday night game with 1400 attendance.  I don't know the particulars now, but I can tell you from talking with some ownership/management of the Ice Bears in the past, they really didn't make money until attendance went over 2000.  Up until then, it (hopefully) paid expenses and rent.  Over that 2000, I believe they used to get a kickback from the city of $1 per ticket.  They had to get into that area to actually make money holding a game.

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Don't think we've had over 1400 all year.  For some reason the area hasn't latched on to the Mayhem like they did the Whoopies and Trax for that matter.  Haven't figured it out yet.  Could be that fans have been cautious of supporting a team that will end up leaving them again.  Off topic, but a lot people locally got a bitter taste in their mouth when the city let the Macon Braves (minor league baseball) team leave on the heels of losing hockey. 

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Also per report  in the ECHL players get $100-$150 a stitch- can be quite lucrative if one fights frequently or catches a puck or a stick in strategic places (like a face) and the doc puts in an extra stitch or 2 that may be not quite needed- Doc

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13 hours ago, hockeydoc said:

Also per report  in the ECHL players get $100-$150 a stitch- can be quite lucrative if one fights frequently or catches a puck or a stick in strategic places (like a face) and the doc puts in an extra stitch or 2 that may be not quite needed- Doc

Jamie McKinven played in the E' from 2007 to 2009.  According to one of his 2013 blog entries: "We even got paid compensation to the tune of $1,000 per stitch earned in an on-ice battle (but only in certain states, like New York)."

That particular blog has some other interesting tidbits regarding minor pro hockey team ownership costs & the ways that owners have tried to minimize them: McKinven - The Iron Lung.

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