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SPHL Expansion 2019-2020

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  • This is the official thread for 2019-2020 Expansion Talk

Every season, the topic of expansion pops up. As we move near the halfway mark of the 2018-19 season, let us begin discussing expansion rumors and markets that could be future members of the SPHL. Feel free to comment down below what you've heard or even ideas on markets!

 

 

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It is about darn time!

 

On a side note the Quad Cities (Florence, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, and Tuscumbia) is a little on the small size for an SPHL market, and I don’t think there is ice making equipment in available arenas.  However, it would make for cheap road trips for Huntsville and to a lesser extent Birmingham and Knoxville.

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14 minutes ago, MacGuy said:

This list of indoor arenas with hockey seating capacities makes for a good reference point for discussions. It looks like Decatur is the closest you can get to hockey in the Southern Quad Cities though.

This is liquified sadness.  Decatur is Huntsville territory so it is out.  Same MSA and all.  The Real Quad Cities are their own MSA, the Shoals, which is why I had hope for them.

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9 hours ago, MacGuy said:

This list of indoor arenas with hockey seating capacities makes for a good reference point for discussions. It looks like Decatur is the closest you can get to hockey in the Southern Quad Cities though.

I'm not sure why that list includes a hockey capacity number for the Celebration Arena in Priceville (Decatur).  So far as I'm aware, the facility doesn't have an ice plant.

Decatur's functional ice rink is at Point Mallard Park with a seating capacity of perhaps a couple hundred on bleachers.  Decatur was unable to support their NA3HL team, the Point Mallard Ducks, so the thought of anything larger isn't practical even before you reach the issue of being inside the same MSA as Huntsville.

If you're going to look west toward the Shoals, you're better off driving past a couple more hours to Southaven where there's more disposable income.  But we all know how that turned out.  😞

 

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12 hours ago, AuburnAL said:

On a side note the Quad Cities (Florence, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, and Tuscumbia) is a little on the small size for an SPHL market, and I don’t think there is ice making equipment in available arenas.  However, it would make for cheap road trips for Huntsville and to a lesser extent Birmingham and Knoxville.

You are correct on all statements, especially the middle one which requires an under-arena cooling system, so in sum, a

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14 hours ago, TwistedBrass said:

I'm not sure why that list includes a hockey capacity number for the Celebration Arena in Priceville (Decatur).  So far as I'm aware, the facility doesn't have an ice plant.

Decatur's functional ice rink is at Point Mallard Park with a seating capacity of perhaps a couple hundred on bleachers.  Decatur was unable to support their NA3HL team, the Point Mallard Ducks, so the thought of anything larger isn't practical even before you reach the issue of being inside the same MSA as Huntsville.

If you're going to look west toward the Shoals, you're better off driving past a couple more hours to Southaven where there's more disposable income.  But we all know how that turned out.  😞

 

They should have gone a little farther south to Tunica, and let folks bet on the games.  It is just a short drive from Memphis with the highway open now.  Minor league sports in a casino with legalized sports book betting.  I can’t see anything possibly going wrong with that.

 

But nah nothing against Memphis, but I wouldn’t get that excited for a team there.  Quad Cities would just be close enough to drive over for all the road games.  A person could get season tickets to both teams and have a SPHL game every weekend during the season.

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9 hours ago, AuburnAL said:

They should have gone a little farther south to Tunica, and let folks bet on the games.  It is just a short drive from Memphis with the highway open now.  Minor league sports in a casino with legalized sports book betting.  I can’t see anything possibly going wrong with that.

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It's happened before. The ECHL's Las Vegas Wranglers place in the Orleans Arena, connected to the Orleans Hotel & Casino, for years without any issues. 

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9 hours ago, AuburnAL said:

But nah nothing against Memphis, but I wouldn’t get that excited for a team there.  Quad Cities would just be close enough to drive over for all the road games.  A person could get season tickets to both teams and have a SPHL game every weekend during the season.

The RiverKings played with some success in either of two sizeable arenas over a 25 year span in a population center large enough to easily support a hockey team.

None of which your rural corner of northwest Alabama can offer. Proximity to opponents alone is not nearly enough to warrant a sports enterprise. 

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12 hours ago, MacGuy said:

The RiverKings played with some success in either of two sizeable arenas over a 25 year span in a population center large enough to easily support a hockey team.

None of which your rural corner of northwest Alabama can offer. Proximity to opponents alone is not nearly enough to warrant a sports enterprise. 

Like I said nothing against them.  I just don’t care if they return to the SPHL.  Plus the Quad Cities together have a larger population than Southaven if not DeSoto County or Memphis. 

 

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Actually after checking Wikipedia their metro seems to have about 50000 more people living in it than DeSoto County does.  Not a patch on Memphis itself of course, but more than the 150000 that Bus League Hockey has suggested is the minimum for an SPHL team.  Too bad there is no ice making equipment there.

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Checked the populations on Wikipedia.

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If you compare apples to apples, the Florence-Muscle Shoals Metropolitan Area boasts a population of roughly 200,000 plus a commuters numbering 410,000 - still well shy of the Memphis–Forrest City Combined Statistical Area tapping in at over 1.3 million. But, like you said, there's no ice making equipment there anyway - much less an arena to house it in. 

Meanwhile, there are several other places throughout the Southeast with appropriately-sized arenas, some with a hockey history - only lacking the money, proper backing and fan interest to make a hockey team a reality.

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2 hours ago, MacGuy said:

... Meanwhile, there are several other places throughout the Southeast with appropriately-sized arenas, some with a hockey history - only lacking the money, proper backing and fan interest to make a hockey team a reality.

You forgot: Lacking an owner who won't promise fans the moon (or cruises, vacations, RVs, cars or motorcycles).

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